Sunday, November 15, 2009

Anatomy of injustice from one of our readers, the mother of a young man accused: 'We are going ahead with the rape charges with what little evidence we have'

The following is an article submitted at my urging by a reader, Mary H. She is a member of the demographic that writes to our site most frequently for help: she's the mother a young man she contends is falsely accused of rape. Some of the names have been changed, but that doesn't affect the power of the story.

It is very hard to decide where to start, I am thinking about the Pledge to Allegiance, the last phrase in particular, “with liberty and justice for all.” It strikes me now that is not always the case. It sure did not apply to my son, or others like him who are falsely accused of rape.

Adam‘s story is only unique because he is my son, and because this travesty happened to our family, the burden of which we will always carry.

I will never forget the confusion that followed so quickly after the Flat Head County Sheriff’s deputy pulled into the driveway of our vacation home. I had gone out to open the garage door to have a cigarette, and there he was pulling into the driveway, I quickly ran back inside and got my husband. I was still in my pajamas and was not nearly ready to entertain a deputy sheriff. He told my husband that he wanted to talk to Adam, who was still asleep; we were told to awaken him. As told, we got Adam up and explained that there was a deputy here to see him, this is when the confusion really set in; the deputy said he was under arrest for the rape of Lexi, my niece, Adam’s cousin. What the f--- was all that came out of Adam’s mouth, and then he was cuffed, removed from the house and put in the deputy’s cruiser. I followed him to the garage and asked again what the arrest was for; again he told me for the rape of Lexi. Adam was trying to tell the deputy that there was a mistake, that he had just spent the last couple of hours before he came home talking with his uncle Karl, Lexi's father. I asked the deputy where Lexi was, he said in the hospital having a SANE examine, all I could tell Adam was when the SANE came back this would be over, and do not talk to anyone. I was so very wrong, extremely naïve about the seriousness of the situation.

Here comes that feeling. The same feeling that anyone who has experienced what I just did has, the feeling of being out of control. It’s like this you heart is racing, but it is not in your chest, it has worked its way up to the middle of your throat. It is pounding so very hard that the pain is behind your ears, your head begins to throb in rhythm with your heart, and then the heat sets in, your whole body heats up. Now you know why your heart is in your throat, your body is on fire and it’s trying to escape the pain of the flames. Then the pin pricks start all over, hot pin pricks, because of the internal fire. Is this an anxiety attack? No, it’s just disbelief and dread.

I watched them pull away and I quickly returned to the house, my family standing there all with the same look on their faces: disbelief, horror, and confusion. See, this was supposed to be a family reunion; we do it every two years, my sister, two brothers, our children, and grand children get together. We are spread out so this is our opportunity to be together. We chose -- or I did, as it was my turn to choose -- Montana. Then to put the icing on the cake I convinced Adam to come. See, he is active infantry in the US Army and was set to be deployed to Afghanistan; he had a short leave before he was deployed and I begged Adam to come Montana for a night to see everyone. This is my great regret.

After the Sheriff drove off with my son, Jerry and my youngest daughter, Maggi, set out for Karl's vacation home, just a short block from ours. I came back into the house to find my oldest daughter Leslie speaking to someone on my cell phone. Leslie had such a disgusting look on her face. It was Lexi calling from the hospital to tell me her side of the story, and to tell me she was having a bad day. It was a short conversation I hung up the phone thinking to myself, “is this what rape victims normally do? Make calls to the mother of the man they accuse?"

While I was trying to figure out what to do next, my brother walks in, he’s got a grin on his face, it’s a common expression for him, he wasn’t grinning about the situation, just his grin. He starts to tell me what happened. Lexi woke him up about four in the morning and asked him to get Adam out of her room, so he did and he took Adam into the den, they talked for about two hours, then Adam came home. This is when they called the police, Lexi waited until Adam left to become hysterical. I told him that Lexi and Adam had come to our house about 2:30 a.m. and they were both very drunk. Lexi was carrying a half empty bottle of wine I tried to get Adam to come in and call it a night, but he would not. Lexi asked Adam in front of me, his father, and sister to come home to her house -- or to her sister’s house -- to sleep. This was fine by me, as long as he was somewhere safe, with family. If he ended up in Lexi's room, he was there by Lexi's invitation. The whole time I was speaking to Karl he was staring behind me, his response to what I said was that my coffee pot was painfully slow and he would go to his house and bring coffee back.

As more of my family slowly started to file through the house to offer their condolences to the mother and father of the "rapist" I went back to getting cleaned up and trying to figure out where the Flathead County Detention Center was located. Apparently, Karl had made his rounds early to tell everyone that Adam had been arrested for raping Lexi; thank God he had not said anything to our ninety-three-year-old mother who was with us for vacation.

Jerry and I found our way to Kalispell and by luck found the jail, but that was the only luck we would have. We could not see our son; he was on a seventy-two hour hold. We were able to buy him a phone card to use, but as it turned out he did not get his card until we had left to return to Texas five days later. We asked about a public defender and if we could see Adam and he said it would be three weeks before anyone would be available to see him; we tried to find the Public Defender’s office to no avail. So we returned to our vacation house. I needed to get in touch with the army base to see if they would be any help and to make sure that Adam was not considered AWOL when he did not report back

His sergeant tried everything under the sun to get Adam released, but the deputy prosecutor would have none of it. This was my first insight into what I was up against in my quest to clear my son of these charges. The second glimpse of what we were up against came on Wednesday, the third day after Adam was arrested, when a jailer called. Adam had ask him to call, to tell us that his bail was set at $50,000.00 and he was charged with sexual intercourse without consent and breaking and entering. Adam could not make a phone call as it would be long distance to our phones. Jerry called the deputy prosecutor to get the information first hand, and she told him --and I will put this in quotation marks as these are her exact words, “We are going ahead with the charges with what little evidence we have.” I told my husband, “It is time for an attorney”!

We found Adam’s defense attorney in the yellow pages of the phone book. He had been a prosecutor, so I felt he would know the ropes. As it turned out the only difference between him and the PD office was $7,500.00 up front. The attorney we needed -- that Adam needed -- was considerably more, and now I wish I had come up with the money somehow. As it was, we took out a second mortgage on our home to meet all the expenses we were about to encounter.

After confirming an appointment with the attorney, we returned to the jail as we could not figure out why Adam was not using his phone card. Jerry was getting very irritated with the jailer at the window as she could not seem to answer our questions. He then asked for her supervisor, who promptly appeared. Jerry’s frustrations continued and he was getting nowhere fast, so I stepped in and spoke to the man calmly, explained our dilemma and asked for any help he could offer us. He said he knew we were from Texas and would be returning home in a couple of days, and then said he would allow us to see Adam for thirty minutes and radioed for Adam to be brought down. I must say at this point that man looked like an angel to me, tears welled up in my eyes and my knees went weak. This was more than I could hope for.

The image of Adam sitting on the other side of the glass was so very pathetic. His right arm bearing a cast from an injury sustained while on base. He kept saying that this was a big mistake, he wanted us to get him out, was Uncle Karl crazy? All questions I could not answer, all we could do is tell him how much we loved him, we knew he did not hurt anyone, and we would do everything we could to clear this mess up. I remember telling him that no one in our family believed he had hurt Lexi, but that was a lie. I know what I saw on the faces of my brothers and sister as they came by that first morning with their families. To be accused of rape meant you did it. This is a sad and horrible assumption that all men face with when they are accused. There is no innocence until proven guilty; you are guilty on the statement of your accuser. That was the case with my son, which is why they arrested him without a warrant, without a probable cause affidavit -- just pick him up and build the case with what little evidence you have. I am not so naive to believe Adam is the first man this has happened to, and sadly enough probably not the last. The thirty minutes fled by and a jailer came and took Adam away. That, to this day, is the last time I have seen my son, which is my lasting memory of him.

We saw the attorney. He was very upbeat about our story, and he assured me that during a jury trial, all he had to do was convince one juror that Adam was not guilty. I wanted the whole world to know that he had not done this, not just one person. He also read an article to us from the local newspaper that described Adam as a predator that he had been hitting on Lexi all night long. Nothing about her running through the sprinklers naked that night in front of all her male and female cousins; nothing about the “come home with me Adam"; just that he had broken into the house and raped her. After hearing about the article it felt like my son had already been convicted. And there was the breaking and entering charge, which was later dropped as the fact was, he walked in through an open door. The window that he was suspected to have broken happened earlier that night at the party. But it served well for his arrest.

We spent the rest of our time in Montana trying to appear somewhat normal and happy, for my mother's sake. If she asked me what was wrong, or if I was okay, I simply said that I was worried about Adam going to Afghanistan. While we were all dying inside, given to uncontrollable bouts of crying, Lexi was golfing, fly fishing, and went for a massage. This is not the expected behavior of a young woman that was traumatized by rape, more the behavior of someone ready to get on with their vacation. This type of action could not be considered during a trial, just the alleged actions of my son. Her behavior that night and the days and nights that followed had no bearing on the case.

We returned to Texas, and it was a long trip. Adam’s lawyer proved to be less than we had anticipated. The private investigator that was promised never materialized. His bond reduction hearing was a bust. They said he was a flight risk because he was in the army. Although if anyone had bothered to speak to the base they would have known that he would have remained on the base until a trial. The US army wanted this resolved, and they would not allow him to leave base until it was. We tried to post bond but we had to put our home up as collateral. Adam said NO! All this time we are waiting for the SANE results, it took ninety days for them to come back, clean, no DNA was found on Adam or on Lexi. This was just a few days before he was set to go to trial, but now comes the most astonishing part.

We were ready for trial, when the deputy prosecutor got in touch with our attorney stating that Lexi was worried about the cost of the airline ticket from Norway to Montana on such short notice. There was no short notice. We have known about the trial for a month. When the DNA came back clean, the deputy prosecutor was willing to release Adam to our custody in Texas if he gave up his right to a speedy trial. IS SHE NUTS? Adam is twenty-nine, and property of the US Army, not Mom and Dad. Then, to top off this insanity, I find out that Lexi is already at her father’s house in Canada for a wedding. She is, in fact, just a few short hours by plane away, and believe me when I say that money is no problem for this family, that is why she is in school in Norway. Someone is lying!

And now comes the plea bargain. I get sick every time I think about it. Yes, Adam took it, after ninety days in jail he caved in and took it. Plea down to a misdemeanor assault, keep your nose clean for a year, get psychological evaluation to prove that you are not a sexual predator or an alcoholic within ninety days, and send a letter of apology to Lexi. He took it, he wanted out so very bad; he wanted to join his unit in Afghanistan. I am still puzzled as to why the charges were not dropped after the DNA came back. We had held to the belief that the DNA would set him free. Our attorney said that she would still prosecute Adam on the charges and would probably win. How could that be?

Adam was released and left in Kalispell to find his way back to base in Washington. He called to tell me he was out and had walked to his attorney’s office to get his back pack that I had sent there with clean clothes, shaving items, his wallet and cell phone. Then he walked to a motel and checked himself in until we could arrange for a flight out. He was deeply depressed and we were too far away to get there to be with him. He called later that night to tell me he was having problems with anxiety. He had gone to a store to pick up something to eat and drink and was having a hard time looking at people. He was afraid that someone would accuse him of an inappropriate look. He basically hid in his room until he left for base.

Back at base the JAG office reviewed his case as did his Sergeant; they found no basis for the charges and allowed Adam to return to the army. There was always the underlying fear that he would be discharged, but thank God they saw it for what it was.

I cannot to this day believe that he was arrested on the accusation on this young lady, and that he was held for ninety days in jail with a bond that was unreasonable, oppressive, and was not considerate of his financial situation, or the fact that he had no prior record. I cannot reconcile myself with the fact that the deputy prosecutor wanted a conviction after the DNA came back clean, a conviction at any price. This is not upholding the law; this is getting convictions, almost like they are on a point system, no matter what the price to the accused is.

In closing I would like to share with you that four years previous to this my youngest daughter was drugged and raped. It took a full day after it happened for her to come to me about it, her SANE results were inconclusive as she had bathed, not uncommon for someone that is so very ashamed of what happened to her. The investigators on her case had three suspects, but she would not point a finger at anyone, her memory was cloudy at best, and she did not want to run the risk of ruining someone’s life if she was wrong. She was encouraged by the investigators to “cooperate” with them so that they could make an arrest, but she would not. It took her quite some time to overcome her fears and to return to a normal life style. She was not out playing golf, fly fishing or getting a massage; she was trying to put her life back together. In the end neither my daughter nor son got the justice they deserved. I can only hope that my son will be able to put his life back together, I am painfully aware of how hard that will be. If our justice system does not require accountability for both sides of a crime such as this, if it does not uphold the premise of innocence until proven guilty, if it will not monitor those who are sworn to uphold the law and protect us all, then we will never have “justice for all.”

63 comments:

Anonymous said...

Excellent article. Thanks to the brave woman for sharing this ordeal.

Zeta said...

Yes, thank you for sharing. This is a heartbreaking case, but it's necessary to let people know what we're facing out there.

Anonymous said...

So many girls now make false rape accusations it makes me sick.
The deviants love enabling girls false rape accusations, because it forwards their agendas.

Anonymous said...

If a girl wants attention, she just says someone raped her..she just can't remember who...
And she gets all the attention she could possibly want.

Anonymous said...

And now comes the plea bargain. I get sick every time I think about it. Yes, Adam took it, after ninety days in jail he caved in and took it.

Been keeping quiet, but just HAD to comment on this.

My perspective is different from the writer, I am / was a falsely accused male.

One the one hand, yeah, it is a nightmare, and yeah, you will do almost anything to convince the Police that you are normal, not a monster, so you can get out of there.

On the other hand, no, you don't "cop" to anything you did not do, ever, because you are sealing your guilt, in mind, if not in law.

My lawyer told me prior to my interrogation, "do not tell them a lie, any lie, however small, not even a 'Oh, you meant x, I thought you meant Y' sort of thing, one lie and they have you."

"copping" to something you did not do is telling such a lie.

I'm sorry, but by definition, there are now three possibilities, logically, in this case.

1/ this guy did not any crime, but took a plea bargain, this makes him a liar.

2/ this man committed assault, in which case he is guilty of the crime he was convicted of.

3/ this man did commit a more serious crime, but denied it and took a plea bargain, this makes him a liar

Unfortunately, the back story makes bad reading, alcohol abuse (not just getting drunk) by all the parties concerned, not that getting paralytic drunk means you deserve to be convicted for crimes you did not commit, BUT, it harks back to that thing about wanting to convince the Police that you are a decent normal person and not the animal portrayed.

Which brings us to the point of this post.

Sadly, right or wrong, (and remember I speak with some authority as one of the falsely accused) there are two crucial factors in every rape allegation.

#1 is the Police themselves, they are the "gatekeepers", if you can beat the rap at this stage you are in good shape, if you don't, the task of beating the rap at the next stage is an order of magnitude harder.

#2 the Police are no different to the Courts, who are no different to society in many ways, "beating the rap" has far, far, far more in common with American Idol than CSI Miami, it is a personality contest.

This does NOT mean the Police have to like you, I guarantee as the accused in an alleged rape interview / interrogation, they will not like you, you will feel like they thing you are something they stepped in.

It DOES mean the Police must not think that you look and act like a "criminal" or "guilty".

Taking a plea bargain, sadly, seals this particular "personality contest" result for you, for life, as a matter of record.

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Speaking on a strictly personal note, as a totally innocent victim of a false rape accusation, I don't have much sympathy here, if you are 100% innocent, you stick to that no matter what because frankly, the FRA is not exactly a million miles away from being raped yourself, so anything less that TOTAL denial not only demeans what you, and everyone associated with the falsely accused suffer, but it also makes you a party to the accusers fucked up shit.

When you are alone in the cells, NOT being a party to the accusers fucked up shit is the only thing that keeps you sane.

AfOR

SgtMom said...

Completely innocent people take plea bargains all the time, AFOR.

All. The. Time.

NOBODY accepts a plea because it's fun or "the easy way out".

Sometimes it's the only way out.

My son took an Alford plea - an Alford plea is not admitting guilt - it's conceding the state will convict whether you are guilty or not.

It's quite easy for a guilty person to get away with rape - it's just as easy for a completely innocent person to be convicted.

With the broken and corrupt justice system in place I don't know that guilt or innocence is even the issue.

It's like playing "Chicken" with your life - do you accept a plea and live the rest of your life wondering if you would have been aquitted, or stand up for your innocence and MAYBE get aquitted or MAYBE spend the next decade being raped in prison.

I don't know the details of your case, AFOR, but when my son was asked "Who are they gonna believe? YOU? or that BEEEEEUTIFUL little girl? My son knew the answer to that question all too well....

Anonymous said...

Completely innocent people take plea bargains all the time, AFOR.

How do you know?

It is that nature of such things that we can only ever speak of ourselves.

Speaking for myself, I cannot ever imagine taking a plea bargain, I'd rather eat a bullet or rot in a cell than ACCEPT and conviction for a crime that, BY DEFINITION, I did not commit.

Speaking as someone falsely accused of rape, I can tell you for a fact you only have to look at the faces around you to know for a FACT that the other side just dropped the nuke on you.

There is no worse "or else" alternative, this is the loaded gun pointed at your head and the person holding the gun saying "I am going to pull this trigger, and shoot you dead."

A funny thing happens, you do not beg to be shot in the left foot, you literally have nothing to lose, so you say "fuck you" and smoke em if you got em.

Saying innocent people take plea bargains all the time is like saying 20% of women get raped but don't report it, you can't prove it, ever.

It is just noise.

I was accused of rape, and I had no interest in agreeing to a lesser charge, not even loitering.

All I was and am interested in is my false accusers doing jail time.

Trust me on this SgtMom, if you are innocent and falsely accused the horror passes quickly, what you feel next is fucking rage, rage that sick lying cunts can make such accusations, rage the brain dead police can't see how dumb and full of holes the accusations are, rage that they are studiously ignoring the SERIOUS crime that has actually been committed, while trying to nail for for a SERIOUS crime that never happened.

Then someone offers you a lesser charge, "OK, you just grabbed her tit and we'll let you walk, deal?"

You say what I said.

FUCK

YOU

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Yes, completely innocent people are found guilty all the time, that we can say is a fact, DNA innocence project etc.

Plea bargains, I might buy it if it is pleading to 50 in a 30 and a fine, instead of 70 in a 30 and a driving ban which would cost me my job.

When my entire life, when my entire good name, and those associated with me, is at stake?? NO.

YMMV

All respect to you (and indeed Pierce etc) but we who have been falsely accused are the only ones who know what it is like from the inside looking out.

I think you'll be surprised if other FRAccuseds chime in.

We have to pretend to be nice, civilised, social animals.

That's not how we feel.

Cold implacable rage is how we feel.

People feeling that don't do deals.

Anonymous said...

As a follow up to myself, on the feelings you experience.

I did not hide, I did not avoid friends, I did not avoid family, I did not avoid going in to town.

I did avoid potentially risky behaviour, like going out and drinking.

I did not try to hide what I had been accused of, on the contrary, I talked about it with everyone I met, even neighbours, taxi drivers, you name it.

why?

BECAUSE I AM FUCKING INNOCENT, and I have not done a damn thing wrong, and I have NOTHING to hide and NOTHING to be ashamed of.

I am IMMENSELY GRATEFUL that no-one, not one single person, asked me "did you do it?"

If anyone had, I would have answered, "No, and fuck you."

As soon as my particular story, which is still ongoing, ends, I'll send it all to Pierce, and I mean ALL, all the documents, statements, affidavits, everything. BOTH sides.

Let him, and everyone else, read it and be the judge. I have NOTHING to hide.

Speaking bluntly, said documentation will not paint me as some saint, paragon of virtue, pillar of society, or anything else, there is tacky and seedy and amoral stuff in there, but there is fuck all illegal in there.

Once they dropped the nuke and I got arrested for (alleged) rapes, frankly I don't give a shit about public image any more.

It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum.

AfOR

Anonymous said...

Plea bargains are now being used for the gender feminist perverts to "keep up the numbers".
It is a perversion for the law enforcement community in Alliance with the gender feminist pork feeders.. to be able to "cash in"..arrest numbers for cash and grant monies from the VAWA.
It is leading to perversions of justice.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for sharing your story. I am sorry this happened to your son and your family. I pray that your life returns to normal and this Lexi person gets what she deserves.

AfOR- I love you!!! I love how you just tell it like it is. I am glad to see you posting again ;)

CBGirl

Anonymous said...

Afor,

I haven't been falsely accused myself - I haven't even had any dealings with police. But of all the accounts I've read of men being falsely accused, your account has been the most personally authentic. I've tried to imagine myself in the same position as so many unfortunate men who have accepted plea bargains, and I haven't quite been able to fathom it. Maintaining my innocence would be the rock I would cling to, the only certainty I wouldn't yield when surrounded by so many people who wanted nothing for me but harm, truth be damned. The prospect of a jail sentence would be nothing compared to my own sense of having failed myself by admitting to a lie of this kind, no matter how 'sensible'.

I am always disappointed by the acceptance of a plea bargain, but that's not to say I automatically believe they are guilty. It's highly likely that many of them do feel guilty in some way, even though they are not criminals. Where sex has actually taken place, I can see how a man might be pressured into thinking he took a liberty without ensuring full consent, and that the idea that he actually did commit a rape might trickle into his consciousness, even though he never set out with such an intent. Once this idea is seeded in a man's mind while he is completely under police control, locked behind bars, treated with contempt and promised an awful future, there is every possibility that he may come to believe his own guilt, though not quite so thoroughly that he would confess to it. He could have been reluctantly talked into it by the only people he is allowed to be influenced by. Once offered a plea-bargain, and the chance to confess to a lesser crime that matches with the lesser guilt that he feels, he may well yield. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the police are well-acquainted with the psychology of a confined man and are expert at getting people to believe in their own guilt.

I'm glad to see that in spite of my speculations you are still forthright and maintain your innocence, and agree with you that nothing frustrates the crooked more than those men who stay with the truth. I take a particular interest in your comments, and once you are free of this trial (in all senses of the word), I look forward to your wider story, should you still be inclined to be so public about it.

Archivist said...

Of course innocent men take plea bargains -- all the time. It is not a subject open to dispute, and the mere fact that some men wouldn't take a plea doesn't change it. In this case, there was drinking involved, and the risk of conviction was too great to chance.

Anonymous said...

There are many justifiable reasons that the falsely accused take a plea, but if someone that has been falsely accused will come forth and state that the only conclusion he can draw is that this young man must be guilty of something represents the mind set and assumptions that strike fear in the hearts of many people that have been falsely accused of a crime, any crime. If there is a lack of compassion and understanding with the people who should be most supportive, then what chance does one have with a jury. Is it not better to try to put your life back on track then to sit in prison for years saying"I'm innocent." It may be the quick way out, but I am suremany of the innocent people in prison would like a way out.

Anonymous said...

I am always disappointed by the acceptance of a plea bargain, but that's not to say I automatically believe they are guilty. It's highly likely that many of them do feel guilty in some way, even though they are not criminals. Where sex has actually taken place, I can see how a man might be pressured into thinking he took a liberty without ensuring full consent, and that the idea that he actually did commit a rape might trickle into his consciousness, even though he never set out with such an intent.

I had sex, lots of it, with my accusers, plural.

Immoral?

Hell, yes.

Illegal?

FUCK NO!

I keep coming back in my head to a line from the Clint Eastwood film "Unforgiven" that goes something like this...

"You kill a man, you take everything that he is, everything that he was, and everything he could have been."

Falsely accusing someone of rape is the same thing, if I murder someone, nobody gives a shit if I do my time and get out and move in to your street.

If I am convicted of rape, I can live another 100 years and nobody will ever want to know me.

Including my parents, and my children, all of whom are "innocent+" bystanders in all this.

In a LOT of cases false rape is used for no purpose other than character assassination in order to win a child custody case...

So, chances are, if convicted even if your kids were babes in arms when you went in to prison they will be school leavers when you get out, and all they will "know" about dad is he is some sick sex criminal... that'll really help their self esteem.

Meanwhile the only person in their lives who can give them moral guidance is the lying cunt who put the innocent father in prison.

Even of you haven't got kids, you have parents and mebbe siblings, and certainly friends, they all get tainted.

THESE ARE THE STAKES FOR ALL MEN!

Frankly spending life in prison is NOTHING compared to this knowledge.

So when you are offered a "deal" you are in an implacable cold rage, and you simply cannot do deals with people in an implacable cold rage.

You say

FUCK

YOU

and then you say

DID YOU GET THAT ON TAPE CLEAR ENOUGH?

SHALL I SAY IT AGAIN?

Because the only "deal" you are interested in is your accuser doing hard prison time.

When they get out, you drag them back in to civil court for damages and defamation of character and everything else you can think of.


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I know everyone is different, but speaking for myself I don't understand / doubt any FRA who is not veined through like marble with cold implacable rage towards his false accusers.

It is a natural human reaction to be outraged by any false accusation, so it is a natural human reaction to feel the way I do about the worst possible false accusations that it is possible to make about a man.

I am DAMN sure that my outrage, and my focus on the vile accusation of rape, fuck all that other shit, equally false, that I was accused of as well, you bastards arrested me for rape, and I never raped anyone in my life, and I don't care WHAT definition of rape you use, what has all this other shit got to do with RAPE? etc etc attitude came through loud and clear to the police.

Anonymous said...

I hear these stories about accused men wilting like flowers, yeah, you do that, for the first 3 or 4 hours while it still seems like some fucking twilight zone nightmare, BUT, come the interrogation (and trust me, interrogation, not interview, is the right word for what the police do) that shit has passed, and you are PISSED like never before.

Wilted and shameful on day 2? I don't fucking think so buddy.

YES, you will do almost anything to get out of that situation, including, unless you have had the advice of a lawyer, telling some stupid lie, like "no we did not have sex" when you damn well did, and this lie will seal your fate, but you will still be PISSED.

AS time passes, whatever the outcome, all that pain and rage and upset burns down, and what is left is cold, implacable, rage.

Jackie Onassis couldn't "pay me off" if she was my false accuser... sure, I'll take ALL her money and property, as a down payment.

I want her powerless, penniless, friendless, reviled for what she is, doing hard time in prison.

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You know what is wrong with this FRS blog?

It dutifully repeats all the stories of false rape accusations, which is great, but it does not have photographs of the lying cunts for google and posterity.

Until false rape accusers AUTOMATICALLY get hard jail time AND stuck on the sex offenders register for LIFE it is the best way of disarming these cunts, by forever stripping them of their power to harm anyone.

How mega rich football stars can let shit slide when they have been falsely accused, shit, he's no man, I'd be taking my entire net worth and booking a 15 second advertising slot in the next superbowl, with a picture of the lying cunt and her name and "False Rape Accuser".

FUCK

YOU

and I'd still have the cold implacable rage afterwards

and a big fat smile.

peace

AfOR

Anonymous said...

Afor is no friend of the falsely accused. He's a nutcase. His heart might be in the right place, but he forgot his brain. His criticisms of the falsely accused are deplorable. He is worse than Atom and Jeana and ought to be banned.

Veldang said...

Afor is just angry and with good reason.

However, everyone is different. He is obviously someone who would stand up for what he feels is right and will never back down.
I respect that.

The problem is, for many people that attitude is like running head on at a machine gun. Brave, but stupid.

I've never been to court for FRA or anything of that nature. I went for heavy weapon charges, i was innocent but the police being what they were blew it out of proportion. (Walking home from the shop with my new axe in a bag, counted as a "concealed heavy weapon"). I was looking at 3-4 years in prison if convicted (this is in Aus fyi).

The feelings and emotions i have from that would probably be small in comparison, but given other stresses in my life such as university admissions and so on, I'd have given anything to get out of that situation. I was young and stupid and weak.

I could not in any good faith believe there are no Men who wouldn't take a plea to escape the gamble of losing their entire life, even if it meant a life time of being accused. They'd look to the immediate, not the long term and fall for the mistake of taking a plea.

Aford, I'm glad you have that resolve. In my age, I'd do the same thing in your shoes. However when i was young and stupid I'd have done anything to escape from such a fate, perhaps even take a plea.

Anonymous said...

Afor

You are right these pieces if trash deserve to be on a sex offender registry for life in addition to prison.

Only then will this stuff die down.

I feel for you!

Anonymous said...

"Afor is no friend of the falsely accused. He's a nutcase. His heart might be in the right place, but he forgot his brain. His criticisms of the falsely accused are deplorable. He is worse than Atom and Jeana and ought to be banned."

Afor rings truer than any other guy I've read. "Cold rage" is exactly what I would feel once any confusion, doubt and misplaced trust melted away.

The false accuser is not just some misguided woman - she is your mortal enemy, and she is trying to destroy you. His view of the situation, and his response, is entirely appropriate and very human.

Your response, however, seems to be devoid of any sincerity. Have you been banned from here?

Missing our son said...

So close to our story I was amazed! Our son IS innocent, did NOT take a plea and after a four day trial was found guilty w/o any evidence at all. The DNA came back "not a match" and there was only hearsay evidence. He had an eyewitness present the entire 24 hour period but a sleeping jury, a jury able to eat lunch with the victim and family, a jury taking only 10 minutes to deliberate and a lying little girl sealed his fate to 8-16 years for a crime that never happened. Our nightmare has truly just begun. 10 months now he's been "in" and not a day goes by without our hearts being broken. He won't admit he did something he never did. He was offered a plea of 11 to 24 months. He refused. I wish he would of taken it. I am now ill. Will I ever see him on the other side of the wall again? I pray every day that I do. But as our justice system stands, I'm living a dream that probably won't have a happy ending!

Anonymous said...

SgtMom said...
Completely innocent people take plea bargains all the time, AFOR.

All. The. Time.

NOBODY accepts a plea because it's fun or "the easy way out".

Sometimes it's the only way out".

Nov 15, 2009 5:33:00 PM

True, very true.

Anonymous said...

Some people have more to lose than others if they wait until the state gets good and ready to take their case to trial.

Anonymous said...

Why Innocent People Confess
It's not a breakdown of American justice. It's American justice working as designed.
By Michael Kinsley

http://www.slate.com/id/2075319/

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/plea/faqs/

http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/10/05/plea-bargaining-201.aspx

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Plea bargains are now being used for the gender feminist perverts to "keep up the numbers".
It is a perversion for the law enforcement community in Alliance with the gender feminist pork feeders.. to be able to "cash in"..arrest numbers for cash and grant monies from the VAWA.
It is leading to perversions of justice.

Nov 15, 2009 6:38:00 PM

It has been doing not only all of that but, also allowing any woman or girl to lie about being a victim of a violent crime and have a man or boy suffer for the rest of their lives. I wish I could find the questionaire that womyn's studies groups gave out to both male and female students. The questions were worded in such a manner that no matter how the respondent responded, the female "admitted to being a victim while the male "admitted" to being violent toward females.

Anonymous said...

Archivist said...
Of course innocent men take plea bargains -- all the time. It is not a subject open to dispute, and the mere fact that some men wouldn't take a plea doesn't change it. In this case, there was drinking involved, and the risk of conviction was too great to chance.

Nov 15, 2009 9:35:00 PM

Well put Archivist. Just as no two cases are the same, no two falsely accused are the same.

SgtMom said...

I have NEVER regretted my son accepting a plea.

He would be dead or better off dead if he hadn't.

If I knew then what I know now, he would have accepted one sooner.

Because he insisted on his innocence and a hearing, he ended up with a class "c" felony instead of the misdemeanor he was first offered.

For all this "I'd never accept a plea" big talk I notice one thing missing from AFOR's credentials- how completely stacked against you the system is.

There was a HUGE amount of evidence to prove my son's innocence.

Thanks to rape shield laws and medical confidentiality laws NOT ONE BIT OF IT WAS ADMISSIBLE.


My son had barely turned 16. My husband and I were banned from participating in his defense because I kept trying to tell the truth.

The accuser and her mother could say ANYTHING, and it was ALL admissible.

Anything WE said "re-traumatized the victim" and got us banned.

He was facing SIX years in a prison over 1,000 miles from us.

His public defender told us "You'll never get an aquittal in ******". There are POWERFUL women's groups that will see to it. (This was true - there are organized Court Watchers who monitor Judges, and the judges play to them. A large group of them attended my son's sentencing).

She waved off any talk of his innocence as a waste of time. No investigation, no interviewing of witnesses, no nothing. It was about 'damage control' not innocence. He refused a misdemeanor plea.

10 days before his hearing the family we flew 1,000 miles to discuss the hearing strategy, only to be told the accuser's family had suddenly moved to another state, and refused to return to testify.

I thought that was the end of it- you must be allowed to face your accuser in court.

Not so.

They dropped the plea even more to " not re tramatize the victim".

My son still refused it. He was innocent.

The day before trial, we were told the accuser had been checked into a mental hospital, too traumatized to return to testify. She had -and I quote - "walked down the stairs with her clothes on fire, with NO EXPRESSION ON HER FACE!"

The plea was withdrawn, and the 6 years of prison reinstated...unless he took an Alford plea for a class C felony and no jail time.

Juveniles are not allowed jury trials. It's a hearing before a Judge - with 'Victim Advocate" court watchers publicizing his decisions.

He had passed multiple polygraphs saying he didn't do it.

She waited TWO years to report this claim, was virginally intact claiming every sex act known to mankind - hard core Porno movie stuff my then 14 year old son couldn't possibly know about for weeks- at knife point (explaining why she waited two years to mention it - she was afraid).

Over 3o people wrote letters in his defense. Our minister, his teacher, and my brother in law,( a 20 year CPS expert witness)flew out to testify on his behalf.

None of it did any good.

"Children don't lie"

"Who are they gonna believe, son? You? Or that Beeeeautiful little girl, locked in a mental ward, walking around with her clothes on fire..."

"He who fights and runs away, may live to fight another day"

He was jailed anyway after accepting a plea for no jail time. He passed another polygraph saying he didn't do it so they jailed him a month.

He was beaten up for being the only white kid there. They wouldn't put his broken wrist in a cast, because he "might use it as a weapon".

It's been over 10 years ago. He's not hate filled. He isn't even angry toward his accuser - she was a messed up kid trying to please her mother.

He IS angry at the judicial system. He is angry at those who profited from taking his youth from him.

Every birthday is celebrated with a trip to the police station to register as a sex offender - one of them he went to school with and believes in his innocence.

His accuser's mother now says she's sorry - "Just let it go"...

Anonymous said...

Hell has no rage like a man who has been falsely accused and his feet held to the fire!

SgtMom said...

Missing our son said...

So close to our story I was amazed! Our son IS innocent, did NOT take a plea and after a four day trial was found guilty w/o any evidence at all..."
..................................

Thank you for posting. My heart breaks for you and you son.

God save the innocent...God help us all...

Anonymous said...

It's like this.

Your lawyer will tell you, quite correctly, do not tell the Police a single lie, no matter how small.

If you tell even one lie to the Police, well, I have to admit you can see why the Police instantly lose all faith in you, you just lied, ergo you are a liar.

A plea bargain is, by definition, if you are innocent, admitting guilt to something that never happened, you just lied, ergo you are a liar.

You see the problem...

SgtMom, assuming your son is innocent, you made an elementary mistake.

Everyone, NO EXCEPTIONS, and that includes your defending lawyer, no, ESPECIALLY your defending lawyer, who is not 100% behind your innocence is you ENEMY.

You should have sacked the bitch and let the kid stand his own defence.

Nobody in Court gets convicted except on the balance of probability, if what you say is true, your kid was non convictable.

For all this "I'd never accept a plea" big talk I notice one thing missing from AFOR's credentials- how completely stacked against you the system is.

Cry me a fucking river.

You want stacked against you?

They were trying to make me out to be the next Josef Fritzl, and until you get your day in court NOBODY wants to hear what you have to say.

You can have all the proof you like, until you get your day in court, nobody gives a fuck.

My attitude was fuck you, give me my day in court, you are all going to look like stupid cunts for this.

THAT is why it does not go to court, not because "they" believe you might be innocent, that is not "their" job, but because "they" believe if it does go to court "they" are going to look like assholes.

Because "they" believe that if it does go to court, "they" will me made to look like assholes, and the NEXT rape case they bring, the jury in THAT case is going to remember YOUR case, and be more pre-disposed to dismiss as innocent before they even get sworn in.

SgtMom, if you think your son had it "bad" compared to the rest of the falsely accused, you need to wake up and smell the coffee.

That is what "they" do, it is SOP.

AfOR

SgtMom said...

Anonymous said...

Hell has no rage like a man who has been falsely accused and his feet held to the fire!

Nov 16, 2009 6:10:00 AM
...................................

No one can speak for everybody, or every case.

My son's accusers were family. His aunt and cousin.

People he loved.

The bad part was, they liked my son as well.

He was the collateral damage in an argument between his Aunt and me.

She had an ugly messed up life and successfully turned mine ugly and messed up as well.

My son has always just seemed bewildered by the whole thing.

I, on the other hand, was the one frothing at the mouth angry.

The more I tried to say what was REALLY going on, the more my son was punished.

Talk about Perfect Revenge.

She could write the Judge letters saying I was "violent and dangerous", making threatening phone calls(with no phone record of it to back up the claim)...

And I could say nothing in return.

A paralegal who looked over my son's case afterward called to say "this case was more about YOU - there's hardly anything about your son here, just pages of letters and complaints about you."

She was the protected "victim by proxy" and I was the evil "rapist's mother in denial".

My son was placed on an ankle monitor when he couldn't pass a 'disclosure' polygraph saying he raped her.

He could only leave the house if I was with him, so we took long drives every night listening to his CDs and talking.

At one point asked me to stop being angry.

"Mom, this is making you ugly. If I can bear it, you can too."

I was in a Prozac/xanax haze, gained a huge amount of weight and was hardly recognizable. I didn't have friends over anymore, I didn't enjoy my hobbies or interests anymore. I was a walking dead person. I handled my grief by sleeping and crying.

It made me realize how much she had 'won'- my kid's life was ruined, I was bloated and bitter, my marriage trashed - I wasn't blaming my husband for what his sister did, but I was angry at his lack of anger toward them. He was drinking his way through it.

I'm not religious, but I started reading the Bible. I started reading uplifting books. I lost the weight, quit the anger and thoughts of vengeance and have become a researcher and advocate as best I can.

As he gets older, my son has realized he was used as a pawn in all this, but his anger is directed at the system that allowed it- his accuser was a neglected kid trying to get her mom's attention.

I think my son is going the way of the biblical Joseph in Genesis. Trying to have a good life in spite of what happened.

They've taken all from us I'm going to give...

SgtMom said...

Psalms 69
Save me, O God,
for the waters have come up to my neck.

2 I sink in the miry depths,
where there is no foothold.
I have come into the deep waters;
the floods engulf me.

3 I am worn out calling for help;
my throat is parched.
My eyes fail,
looking for my God.

4 Those who hate me without reason
outnumber the hairs of my head;
many are my enemies without cause,
those who seek to destroy me.
I am forced to restore
what I did not steal.

5 You know my folly, O God;
my guilt is not hidden from you.

6 May those who hope in you
not be disgraced because of me,
O Lord, the LORD Almighty;
may those who seek you
not be put to shame because of me,
O God of Israel.

7 For I endure scorn for your sake,
and shame covers my face.

8 I am a stranger to my brothers,
an alien to my own mother's sons;

9 for zeal for your house consumes me,
and the insults of those who insult you fall on me.

10 When I weep and fast,
I must endure scorn;

11 when I put on sackcloth,
people make sport of me.

12 Those who sit at the gate mock me,
and I am the song of the drunkards.

13 But I pray to you, O LORD,
in the time of your favor;
in your great love, O God,
answer me with your sure salvation.

14 Rescue me from the mire,
do not let me sink;
deliver me from those who hate me,
from the deep waters.

15 Do not let the floodwaters engulf me
or the depths swallow me up
or the pit close its mouth over me.

16 Answer me, O LORD, out of the goodness of your love;
in your great mercy turn to me.

17 Do not hide your face from your servant;
answer me quickly, for I am in trouble.

18 Come near and rescue me;
redeem me because of my foes.

19 You know how I am scorned, disgraced and shamed;
all my enemies are before you.

20 Scorn has broken my heart
and has left me helpless;
I looked for sympathy, but there was none,
for comforters, but I found none.

21 They put gall in my food
and gave me vinegar for my thirst.

22 May the table set before them become a snare;
may it become retribution and [a] a trap.

23 May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see,
and their backs be bent forever.

24 Pour out your wrath on them;
let your fierce anger overtake them.

25 May their place be deserted;
let there be no one to dwell in their tents.

26 For they persecute those you wound
and talk about the pain of those you hurt.

27 Charge them with crime upon crime;
do not let them share in your salvation.

28 May they be blotted out of the book of life
and not be listed with the righteous.

29 I am in pain and distress;
may your salvation, O God, protect me.



33 The LORD hears the needy
and does not despise his captive people.

SgtMom said...

AFOR,

I don't compare my son's case to others.

I don't know enough about other people's cases - or the law - to put myself in the position of judging others.

You are talking as an adult accused by an adult, in an adult courtroom.

My son was a juvenile, accused by a 'children don't lie' qualifying kid a few months shy of being legally able to lie.

To be accused by someone under the age of 12 is an automatic conviction - unless you can prove you were out of the country, and even then some people have been convicted.

If you were accused by a person over 12, you have some chance of justice. If the accuser is under the age of 12, you do not.

I invite you to prove me wrong on about that by valid proof - not your opinion.

In anger against me, my sister in law put her child up to accusing my child. It was her falsely accusing me - both kids were used as pawns.


My son never spoke to police. Not once. A woman detective called and spoke to me. I told her I threatened to report my sister in law for child molesting and this was her pay back. She said that was inadmissible. And that was that. I was never allowed to mention it again.

We fired his first attorney because she wouldn't defend him, and hired another who said exactly the same thing - for thousands of dollars more, and a worse plea bargain.

This isn't a "who had it worse" pissing contest.

You don't know enough about the law - or other people's cases - to judge others.

Your criticism and anger is directed at the wrong people.

Anonymous said...

Read up on Borderline Personality Disorder and Distortion Campaigns.
http://angiemedia.com/?p=19

Willing to bet that Lexi and her mom both have BPD traits. Personality disorders on the part of the accuser may be present in many if not most cases of FRA's.

The more people that know about these types of disorders the better!

After reading the link above, I would be interested in comments from all of you.

Anonymous said...

SgtMom, you assume, for whatever reasons, that I was not also accused of pedophilia.

I don't know why you assume this.

From what you have said, and from where I am standing, your problems are simple enough.

Your son got nailed, used as a weapon, in your dispute with another adult.

I can relate to this too, intimately.

Where we differ is this.

In my book EVERYONE who is not against this is for it, and therefore self declared as the ENEMY.

The ENEMY get to go where they obviously desperately desire to be, in the crosshairs of cold implacable rage.

You should be nailing your sister in law in the courts, and you should have made your husband and everyone else decide whose side they are on.

Your sister in law is the one who decided that this would be a game with no middle ground.

Your sister in law is the one who decided to create a situation where the rest of the family had no choice but to choose sides.

Sounds to me like YOU gave them that choice.

Life is full of circumstances where we make compromises, we follow the easy path instead of the hard line correct path, that is OK, that is normal.

False rape accusations are not normal life, there is no compromise, there is no moral dilemma, there is only binary choice.

FOR

AGAINST

and being a binary choice it is all the way, 100%, pedal to the metal, no exceptions, no compromise, no dilemma.

You talk about my "big talk".

It isn't big talk, it isn't brave, it isn't anything except what it is, and that is cold, hard, clinical, realism.

You are either ENEMY or not, you do not get to choose to be a useful idiot on the sidelines and then get a pass when it all blows over, because you weren't actually a protagonist.

From where I am sitting, and that is someone who has actually been falsely accused, you are living in an illusion.

The illusion being that these people, being related to you, actually means something positive, you actually think they are "family" and worth having in your life.

You quote God, but you've done a deal with the Devil.

You need to cut everyone, no exceptions, who was not 100% behind your son, out of your life, permanently, totally, comprehensively.

Whatever "cost" you think this has, is just an illusion.

AfOR

Anonymous said...

Read up on Borderline Personality Disorder and Distortion Campaigns.
http://angiemedia.com/?p=19


I am WAAAY ahead of you on this one.

Another one to google is shrink4men

This is why I say it has to be FRIEND or FOE, no exceptions, in all your dealings in FRA cases.

Know thine enemy.

AfOR

Anonymous said...

Actually...

http://angiemedia.com/?p=4756

should be REQUIRED reading

AfOR

SgtMom said...

There is NO 'easy' path in these cases, AFOR.

No one gets off 'easy'.

Mary H said...

Dear Missing our Son: You made me cry, again. I know your grief and disbelief. There have been many comments about my sons plea deal, some not too flattering, but that is what makes this nation great, we are allowed to "agree to disagree." Adam's attorney said that even though there was not so much as a trace of DNA, her father supplied the alcohol for the party that was at his home, ect. that the prosecution could still get a conviction, after reading you story, I guess he was right. Remember that not only was my son facing a conviction at district Court level and jail time, but if convicted he would have a dishonorable discharge and possible court martial by the military. I will pray for you and your son everynight until your son is free, happy and hopefully vindicated. Mary H.

SgtMom said...

I'm not saying this to be cruel or unkind, but I'm glad my son is where he's at and not where you are at.

Rage and anger poisons you - your accuser doesn't feel a thing.

I have no association with my son's accusers. He ran into them at an Airport a few years ago. They began crying, saying they were sorry, and asking him to "just let it go" - this was the Mom, Dad, accuser, and his Grandmother - all who had a hand in this.

I wasn't there, but my husband said he just smiled and told them he had already let it go.

This has brought my family together - closed ranks and united.

If that's wrong - as the corny song goes- I don't wanna be right.

Archivist said...

Mary H, thank you for your service for the falsely accused. You are a great American~

SgtMom said...

Thank your son for his service to his country, as well...

Anonymous said...

SgtMom, it is written "vengeance is mine sayeth the lord and I shall repay". I think your son knows this. It is also written in the book of revelation " It is the day of the lord, who can stand?" It is also written " GOD is a lover of justice" ; HE despises uneven scales". I am nobody to say I am religious, I don't belong to any particular religion. I admire AFOR's courage to face whatever is coming. If I did not have to worry about what the Tennessee Army National Guard would have put me through, had I waited to go to trial, I would have never accepted the plea bargain I was coerced into accepting. I was " represented" by two public defenders and one court-appointed attorney who all made it clear they would allow me to be sent up "shit's creek " with no paddle, if my case went to trial. Mine was not a case of being falsely accused of rape or any sexual crime but, the way the system came after me, you would have thought she accused me of committing an act of terrorism against the U.S. She claimed I waved a gun at her. GOD is my witness, I never had a gun or even pretended to have a gun or any other weapon. In this " woman's state", she was beyond rebuke. Her word was taken over mine. She has a prior felony conviction that happened long before she lied on me. She still makes sure she flaunts herself in front of me at my workplace. AFOR has not been convicted ( I refuse to say convicted yet, as I hope and pray the jury will discern the truth from the lies and NOT convict him). It is, as you and your son must know, aggravating to be accused of something serious, and even though there is all kinds/types of evidence that proves the accuser wrong, the authorities still ( by " probable cause") seek a conviction and use all means, "fair" and unfair, to destroy a man's life. I was quickly taken to jail and booked. I had no money to bond out and no way, unless I had someone/anyone who could afford the $40.00 [ per 30 minutes] to pay for the contracted phone service, so I could call someone/anyone to make my bond. I was alone. I even called my now former first sergeant Glen Foss and my now former administrative NOC Theresa White to request the assistance of JAG and/or the IG to help me. Yes I was/still am a soldier.They were too busy worrying about their careers to care about me facing two to fifteen years in prison so, they didn't do anything to help me. I guess this was my reward for selflessly serviving in the guard. If I had waited for my case to go to trial I would have been convicted by the jury, on the " victim's " word alone or,if found not guilty, been put throught the hell of a courts-martial for being AWOL and desertion ( which,considering we were (and still are a nation at war) faced execution as a result. I know my( now former) first sergeant would have played dumb and allowed my execution. The U.S. Military is infamous for always taking the word of a female over the word of a male. I am forced to live with the hell of having accepted a plea bargian. Too many male members of the U.S. Military have been forced to do the same, all because a female accused them of committing a violent/non-violent crime against them. We, unknowingly trapped ourselves in hell all because we decided to honorablty serve our country. I am just another man who must live with the decision I was forced to make, another innocent lamb forced into slaugter. The name of my falee accuser; Sandi Delk. She had the gall to brag about what she did to me online. Talk about someone playing the system and using it to cause harm to an innocent men and his life. None of those involved in fucking up my life, including this liar, can ever make up for what they have done. The state of Tennesse will have this injustice visited upon them as certain information about this state has been released and backed up with proof, on the world-wide web. They " took " my life from me. AFOR, a warrior may be wounded but, he can still fight. Remember my words and GODSPEED!

Anonymous said...

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/violent-crime/TPL4FKSHEEHCDLA5I/p2

Same sandi delk??

AfOR

Veldang said...

Anger can destroy you, but sometimes you need it to survive. It all comes down to how you personally approach a situation.

Escape and live or
Fight and risk death.

SgtMom chose escape, Afor chooses to fight.

Neither is wrong nor right, they are just dealing with the most messed up of situations in whatever way they can.

We need to focus together on making sure this doesn't happen to any more people.

Sonja Newcombe said...

People take plea bargains all the time. David Hicks took one so he could come back to Australia after being illegally held at Gitmo for years.

Mary, my heart goes out to you. What's happened was truly abhorrent. But your son is back in the fold of the military, who will look after him.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/violent-crime/TPL4FKSHEEHCDLA5I/p2

Same sandi delk??

AfOR

Nov 16, 2009 4:22:00 PM

Yes. She has been stalking me for over a year. I could ask the authorities why she is still alive, seeing as she claimed I had a gun. While I sat in a jail cell filled with ex cons and violent gang members, an extensive and thorough investigation revealed no weapon ever existed. The investigators ran-sacked the home I share with my twin brother and the truck I had, which was repossessed while I was rotting in jail. I had a very bright and promising future ahead of me as a member of the active duty Army. I lost everything I had to live for because of her lie and the state of Tennessee's enabling her to lie. I was almost charged with AWOL and disertion by the Tennessee Army National Guard. AWOL would have meant a reduction in rank and up to, if I remember correctly, thirty days extra duty. Disertion during a time of war; execution. Either way I was screwed. I cannot tell you how much it hurts to lose something I dreamed of since childhood. I could be doing great things and enjoying life.

Anonymous said...

She may as well have murdered me.

Anonymous said...

Yes. She has been stalking me for over a year.

Dude, if this is her, then what the fuck are you doing sitting here reading this?

She just handed you the keys to destroy her, UTTERLY, in the civil courts.

I'd start with a million dollar lawsuit, proceed with extortion and racketeering, if state borders have been crossed by either one of you (you moved and she carries on) then there's another federal one, then eventually work your way down to shit like stalking and harassment.

She just handed you all these cases on a silver platter.

git'r'done

AfOR

Anonymous said...

She has nothing. She has no money, no assets, no propety. I saw all of that in print brought to me by a local member of an organization that has something to do with wrongfully imprisoned people which is based in Washington state. I couldn't beleive my eyes when I read it. He also had other things she said on the same web site. Come to think of it, I still have the transcripts from the preliminary hearing and I also have the " motion for discovery". I believe I will see an attorney. If nothing else comes of it, it will show the state of Tennessee how wrong they were. I may also show it to the local news media. If any of them will listen, I don't know.

Anonymous said...

The plea bargain will be seen for what it is; a dirty contract formulated from fraudulent information and gender bias. They ignore my complaint about her and her friends coming to my home and threatening to kill me.

Anonymous said...

She has nothing. She has no money, no assets, no propety.

Doesn't matter, so you make her bankrupt for life, doesn't matter.

Only thing that matters is a webpage with her name and address and the judgement in your favour awarding you a million bucks.

Trust me on this.

AfOR

SgtMom said...

Why innocent people 'wilt' into accepting plea bargains:

Studies have repeatedly shown that over half of molestation-abuse accusations are false, yet this crime is one of the simplest for a prosecution and has the highest conviction rate of any felony charge. ...
www.winningjustice.net/sexcrimes.html



Rates of carrying cases forward without dismissal were consistently 72% or greater.

For cases carried forward, plea rates averaged 82%.

Conviction rates 94%.

Conviction rates 94%.


Conviction rates 94%.



(http://tva.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/4/4/323)

SgtMom said...

Anonymous said...

SgtMom, it is written "vengeance is mine sayeth the lord and I shall repay". I think your son knows this. It is also written in the book of revelation " It is the day of the lord, who can stand?" It is also written " GOD is a lover of justice" ; HE despises uneven scales".

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Ecclesiastes 9:12 >>
New American Standard Bible

Moreover, man does not know his time: like fish caught in a treacherous net and birds trapped in a snare, so the sons of men are ensnared at an evil time when it suddenly falls on them.


Flopping around like a fish in the bottom of a boat describes EXACTLY how all this felt.

You HAVE to struggle, you HAVE to fight --it just did no good...

The good times of your life are by no means over, Tennessee. Most people really don't know they can't control what happened, but they can control how they react to it.

You can decide not to let that person rob you of another moment of happiness. There are many ways to be happy.

You will be happy again someday.

I never thought I'd feel anything except fear and dread for the rest of my life. I lived with those two emotions for so long I believed I'd never know what life was without them.

Now I hardly feel those things. I'm not the same person I was before, but that's not a bad thing.

I had a good life before - a big expensive home, a husband that loved me, and great kids.

I wasn't happy and didn't appreciate it until it was all ripped out from under me. I had to learn to fight for my happiness.

“Who steals my purse, steals trash, but he that filches from me my good name robs me of that which not enriches him and makes me poor indeed.” W. Shakespere

I was always taught to keep my name clean. There was NOTHING more important than having a good name.

My good name is on a public sex offender registry, along with my address, for all the world to scorn and revile. I have to make peace with that every day.

Some days are better than others.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/violent-crime/TPL4FKSHEEHCDLA5I/p2

Same sandi delk??

AfOR

Nov 16, 2009 4:22:00 PM



I guess for a criminal like her, bragging about what she did is nothing out of the ordinary.

Anonymous said...

http://www.tsc.state.tn.us/opinions/tcca/PDF/093/State%20v%20Roger%20Glenn%20Dile.pdf


Is this the same person?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
http://www.tsc.state.tn.us/opinions/tcca/PDF/093/State%20v%20Roger%20Glenn%20Dile.pdf


Is this the same person?

Nov 18, 2009 10:46:00 AM
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Anonymous said...

My twin brother ran into one of my false accuser's associates, named Heather, yesterday morning. The woman was amongst the members of the armed mob that accompanied Sandi Delk to the home I share with my twin brother. She inquired as to wether he lived at the same house " where that man lives who pulled his pants down in front of her friend's boy and another little boy and waved a gun at her and everyone there.
Amongst other things, my twin informed her that I, his twin, had never owned or had a gun anywhere and that was not the type of person to expose myself to anyone, especially a child. He told her that the boy lied and so did the woman and everyone lse who claimed I waved a gun at them. He said she became embarassed and ran out as people in the store started talking about her. She unknowingly made the mistake of trying to start a bunch of crap in a store where people who have seen and have known of my character for over 30 years were shopping. Even the cashiers were angered by what she asked my twin.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure there will be alot of neighbors keeping an eye on her and anyone else who lives/visits the house where she lives.

I am expecting to be attacked anyday. This is not theory,having been a people watcher for years, I know the type of people this Heather character associates with.

Anonymous said...

Of course I expect the police do to nothing. That is all I have come to expect from them.

Anonymous said...

N THE COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS OF TENNESSEE AT NASHVILLE
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Sep 24, 2009 ... Sandy Delk, was not a reliable witness and, as a result, ... K.D. said she no longer saw her mother, Sandy Delk, with any frequency. ...
www.tsc.state.tn.us/opinions/.../State%20v%20Roger%20Glenn%20Dile.pdf

Anonymous said...

"Afor is no friend of the falsely accused. He's a nutcase. His heart might be in the right place, but he forgot his brain. His criticisms of the falsely accused are deplorable. He is worse than Atom and Jeana and ought to be banned."

Didn't I tell you long ago that she would be back only posting anonymously? Well, I was right.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
N THE COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS OF TENNESSEE AT NASHVILLE
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Sep 24, 2009 ... Sandy Delk, was not a reliable witness and, as a result, ... K.D. said she no longer saw her mother, Sandy Delk, with any frequency. ...
www.tsc.state.tn.us/opinions/.../State%20v%20Roger%20Glenn%20Dile.pdf

Nov 19, 2009 2:24:00 PM
The woman mentioned is Sandy Delk, my false accuser's name is Sandi Delk. It is possible that she did not correct the spelling of her name.

Anonymous said...

I have learned that she had a daughter and a son. Both of these children were taken from her by the state.