Wednesday, March 17, 2010

Girl's rape lie called "erroneous" by police

In the story below, a police officer said the girl's story was "erroneous." 

Sorry, sir, an "error" is when I forget to set the alarm or forget to stop at the ATM on my way home.

Get it straight, sir: she lied. And it was a serious lie.  Also, why is the newspapers still looking for witnesses to prove something that was a lie?

Police: Girl's story of attempted South Reno rape is "erroneous"

Upon further investigation into a teen girl’s claim she was sexually attacked Monday near Western Skies Drive, police said today the accusations are false.

Sgt. Gerald Rhodes, of the Reno police child abuse and sex crimes unit, said the public should be assured they are no longer looking for a stranger who is attacking females in South Reno.

He said detectives discovered the 14-year-old girl’s claim that a “dirty” man in his 40s pushed her to the ground and groped her was “erroneous.”

Rhodes declined to give further details into the case, and said the investigation is on-going.

The incident was reported around 4 p.m. in a dirt area near the end of Western Skies Drive. The girl said after the alleged attack, she ran to a friend’s house and called police.

Anyone with information is encouraged to call detectives at 334-2115 or Secret Witness at 322-4900.

Link: http://www.rgj.com/article/20100218/NEWS01/100218017/1321/news/Police-Girl-s-story-of-attempted-South-Reno-rape-is-erroneous

18 comments:

apple shoes said...

Archivist you do great work here and I commend you. One small thing though, did you change the subtitle to the blog "Giving voice to men and women falsely accused of rape and sexual assault"? I didn't notice the women part before.

Women already have a voice in our society. I understand you're trying to be fair but men are the ones who are railroaded in our corrupt justice system. Is women being falsely accused of rape a problem? I haven't noticed it on your site or anywhere else. If it was for some odd reason believe me they'd have a horde of feminists and white knights making a big deal about it, writing new laws to combat it and imprisoning men.

Women don't need our help. Sorry. They have the entire justice system and the media on their side. They don't deserve fairness right now by having "women" in the subtitle. This is a male issue. I say this with all due respect, like I said you do great work.

Anonymous said...

@ apple shoes:

I am a regular poster here and a falsely accused man. While you are correct that the majority of accusations are from women against men, women do get accused too. As such, we don't discriminate here based on attributes of individuals, we only care if they have had false accusations made against them. To answer your question: Yes, women have been falsely accused of rape or sexual assault. Women who are teachers and caregivers have been accused of sexual assault of their students and charges. Some are innocent. It rarely makes the press, or if it does, it is given uneven coverage due to the cultural double standards that exist. It is the same cultural double standards that enable women to make false accusations that allow men and boys to be falsely accused, arrested, and imprisoned. So, it is not just a male issue, it is a human rights issue. I wouldn't wish false accusations on my worst enemy: man, woman, or "other." If we excluded falsely accused women in addressing the issue of false accusations generally, we would be guilty of the same crime the gender feminists are perpetrating against innocent men. We need to return to EQUAL protection of the laws and dignity for men and women both. I do agree that, for now, the entire justice system and media in the Anglosphere has been corrupted by moral panic and hysteria that allows women an unfair advantage. The irony is that such hysteria and uneven treatment ultimately denigrates, demeans, and humiliates both men and women.

http://www.factuk.org/

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/living/2003874026_predator10.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/article6890538.ece

Anonymous said...

"If we excluded falsely accused women in addressing the issue of false accusations generally, we would be guilty of the same crime the gender feminists are perpetrating against innocent men. We need to return to EQUAL protection of the laws and dignity for men and women both."

True dat. I believe that a revolution or coup of some kind is probably unavoidable,though. That's how history works.

I only hope that enough women will speak up and say "This bullshit has to stop." that they aren't totally slaughtered off by all the men that have been fucked over at their request for the last 40-50 years.

A lot of women have trouble with long-term goals that don't involve robbing a man of half his earnings for 18 years,however, so I'm not too certain about that.

Anonymous said...

True dat. I believe that a revolution or coup of some kind is probably unavoidable,though. That's how history works.
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Not going to happen, and it shouldn't happen. A revolution would only make things worse.

We need legal reform, not the American Hugo Chavez.

Archivist said...

We've always advocated for the presumed innocent women who are accused of sexual assault. Trust me, although the harm to them isn't as great as it can be for males -- for example, they aren't chased and beaten with a baseball bat (SEE SCOTT, I MENTIONED YOUR FAVORITE CASE), their careers and relationships can be destroyed by such allegations, too. They are treated as circus sideshows, pathetic jokes. I added an asterisk to make clear that false claims against isn't a common occurrence. So, yes, it is almost exclusively a men's issue -- but if you think we are all alone in having virtually nobody go to bat for us, those few women who are accused of sex crimes have virtually NO support from anyone, so we need to make them feel welcome here, too.

Where did I get the idea to do this? I pointed out to one of the very angry feminists who was ripping on us -- quite factually -- that we advocate with the same vigor for women who are presumed innocent of sex crimes. It took her aback, and she sheepishly slinked away.

I mean, do these people think we're not serious about this issue? Or that we are intellectually dishonest and anti-woman?

Archivist said...

Anon at 3:09 -- your comment was beautifully stated.

Anonymous said...

Although I wasn't the one who was accused, as the wife of the accused, I am definately in the same boat as my husband.

After 9 months, I still do not have my computers back or software that makes my living. I have been the breadwinner and we are now going to the food bank, borrowing money from family to pay bills, 4 weeks from bankruptcy at all times.

We both still jump in fear whenever a car comes in the driveway unannounced, we fear the police coming to destroy our home again and haul us off for 'something'. We peer out the windows in fear watching for 'them'.

Apply Shoes, I was threatened by police that I may also be arrested. They told me they would be investigating me and if I was involved or thought to be involved, they were coming back for me. They told me they would seize our farm if it had been mortgage free. So just think a bit more about your thought process that women don't need a voice.

Not all women are feminists. I agree with equal work for equal pay and an equal voice in marriage decisions but I mean equal, not the majority of decisions.

The woman accused my husband not me but her actions have ruined my life. I am in my 50's and not a spring chicken anymore. Without this blog I would have probably ended my life back in the summer. It truly has given me a voice, an outlet, some hope.

The Falsely Accused need more women fighting for them whether the falsely accused be man or woman. Women do have more voice right now in these matters and men need the good ones (like me) on their side. Law enforcement is mostly comprised of men who love power and control, a "perfect" match with the feminists to destroy the lives of famiies.

Don't you think that is their ultimate goal? Destroying families, marriages, the 'normal' lives of both men and women.
CBGirl

Archivist said...

CBGirl, you raise an important point.

One of the things I always point out to people is that we hear from more women about their falsely accused male loved ones than we hear from the men. (We have added a link on our site that tells people what they need to do if they are falsely accused because we literally couldn't keep up with the email and most of the time we were giving the same advice over and over -- this has helped a lot.)

Yes, this is a men's issue. It is also a WOMEN'S issue. Just as unfair child support obligations also affect a man's new wife, false rape claims are sometimes just as hard or harder on loved ones.

Probably the big turn-off to men from the feminist movement when it comes to rape is this idiocy that tries to lay guilt on innocent men for what a tiny percentage of male criminals (rapists) do. The people who talk like that -- typically foolish college girls and lesbian professors who know nothing about the real world, or about rape -- but they are filled with righteousness. Here's the reality: when it comes to actual rape, the male loved ones of the victim are more outraged, angrier, more ready to kill, more interested in justice and even vigilante justice, than anyone. Men are far more "law and order" than women and don't view rape as a gender issue: men view rape as a crime issue. Only the damn feminists view rape as a gender issue.

See, in the real world, men and women are inextricably linked. When a men contracts prostate cancer, his female loved ones suffer, too. The same for false rape claims. Trust me. I've got the communications to prove it.

One of the inevitable effects of the damn feminist divisiveness is to turn off some good men from caring about rape. They view the feminist agenda as a lie, and as anti-male, so they won't support it. It fuels hatred of women.

What a tragedy! Sadly, I doubt that the feminists care. I think they relish the divisiveness and the genders war they've fomented. They are more interested in feeding a misplaced victim fetish than in actually helping anyone.

AND they do actual harm to actual rape victims by not addressing the false rape epidemic.

Snark said...

Very well put, CBGirl.

And I agree, we MUST agitate in favour of falsely accused women too.

Anonymous said...

One need only to read about the horrors endured by elderly women who were falsely accused to realize women are NOT handled with kidd gloves when falsely accused.

Read about the McMartin pre school debacle to learn how those women (some very elderly) were treated in jail.

Read about Gerald Amirault's mother Violet, and his sister.

Google Kelly Michaels name.

Women whose male loved ones have been falsely accused are in a terrible position.

They can't speak about it with other women, their own gender, without negative results, and they are reviled and blamed by men just for being women.

Not all women are The Enemy, the vast majority of women are not False Accusers.

It would serve this site well to recognize and encourage those stand up women.

This conversation shows how much that opportunity is being passed up.

Anonymous said...

He called it erroneous, because of the "gender feminist" influence in our current legal system.
Law enforcement are now engagaing in protocol that simply "redefine what the meaning of is, is", in order to manufacture misinformation to the public.
This misinformation is faulty and inflammatory, and prejudices against the innocent...and is un-constitutional.
Get gender feminism out of our legal system..it is causing perversions of justice.

Anonymous said...

OT:

Fred Reed's column posted today is worth a look...

http://fredoneverything.net/Nullification.shtml

slwerner said...

Anonymous - "Not all women are The Enemy, the vast majority of women are not False Accusers.

It would serve this site well to recognize and encourage those stand up women.

This conversation shows how much that opportunity is being passed up."


I'm right with you...right up to that last sentence. I've seen women, both the falsely accused (as well as those possibly falsely accused), and the stand-up woman who stand behind the men in their lives who have been accused, receive admiration support, and even praise here (on this site/forum).

Perhaps you could be more specific as to the supposed failings you believe you see here. No single discussion thread can ever possibly cover all possible topics- no matter how worthy they may be. Nor will the other commentators think to cover topics which might be important to a given reader/poster here.

If you like to discuss a particular matter (hopefully) relating to the primary topic at hand (or one introduced by another's comment), it is you who should bring it up (as opposed to criticizing others for not bring it up).

Perhaps, if you were to give us some insight into where you see this conversation having failed to address your concerns, it might even lead to a lively and though-provoking discussion.

Go ahead, give it a try.

Jim said...

"It would serve this site well to recognize and encourage those stand up women. "

It would serve you well to know what you are talking about before you open your mouth and embarrass yourself. Thi site has championed falsey accused women. Did you not catch that discussion in the comments above yours, or did you just swoop in on a cloud of self-righteousness and assume no one else had anything worthwhile to say compared to your all-conquering genius?

Anonymous said...

Well, Jim - here's and example:


The question was Anyone At Feministing defending THIS?

Only one person seemed to aknowledge the majority of women were not:

slwerner said...
"Against my better judgment, I decided to take a look at the Feministing piece. Actually, I was somewhat pleasantly surprised to see most of the comments being posted tended to be refutations the position of the author, one Sofiafromoregon."


My comment was not "self righteous" but pointed out something very valuable that's too often ignored here -there ARE stand up women out there. Even on feministing.

apple shoes said...

I understand the arguments and I even thought of it while writing my post. False accusations do happen against women and I don't wish it upon anyone.

I guess the "giving voice" part caught my attention. Women already have a voice. They have organizations, politicians, journalists, Oprah, Womens Studies programs in universities, and on and on. They have an army of white knights and feminists, while we have very little, which is why I saw it more as a men's issue. I don't want to minimize the plight of falsely accused women.

CBGirl is an example of a good woman. You have my sympathies in regards to your situation. You said:

The Falsely Accused need more women fighting for them whether the falsely accused be man or woman.

True, but where are they? They're awfully quiet but for a select few. Where are our female white knights? :) In the end I agree with you guys, women should be included in the discussion. Maybe it's a trivial issue, but it just felt odd to have "women" in the subtitle as if this is an issue that affects men and women equally. Anyway, Archivist added an asterisk. All is well.

Anonymous said...

thank you Apple Shoes.

When this is 'over', regardless of how it ends, I will be even more open. I feel it's my duty as the victim of a pond scum accuser to bring more attention to this crime of FRA.

In my community I am already talking to anyone and everyone about my husband's case and his accuser. I am not quiet. I also talk about this blog as much as possible.

It is a quest for justice for me. I want government reform as well as strict punishment for the false accusers.

Currently I write to my congressmen, civil rights agencies, anyone who will listen. I have sold my art on eBay with portions going to the Innocense Project, just to bring awareness of the injustice we are facing in the US. I tweet, I have FRS and the Innocence Project on my Facebook to also bring awareness to my artist friends (over 300).

In my opinion awareness and education are the keys to reform. The more people who know what really happens to innocent men who are accused of these horrible crimes the better. There is strength in numbers.

I try to think of ways to educate the 'average Joe' about these atrosities of justice. One idea is a chain of thrift stores (non-profit organizations) whose charity is the Innocence Project.

I am one of the White Knights for you guys. We need reform!!
CBGirl

Anonymous said...

Hey wait a minute! In college, I was taught that a woman would never, ever, ever, ever lie about rape! They lied to me!