Thursday, April 21, 2011
False rape claim triggers killing of two men
Rape liar tells her cousin and another man to shoot her boyfriend in the penis "so he don't use it no more."
A tearful Priscilla Ramirez, 21, telephoned her cousin Philip Perez Gonzales Jr., 27, and asked him to come and get her. Mr. Gonzales complied, and brought his friend Michael Lee Armstrong, 23, with him. Ms. Ramirez told the two men that her boyfriend, Everett Antonio Taylor, 28, had raped and beat her, and that she wanted them to deliver a little payback. Ms. Ramirez got in their vehicle and took them to Mr. Taylor's apartment in a housing project.
"There was one big problem with Ramirez's rape story," Deputy District Attorney Eric Kindall told a Sacramento Superior Court jury last week. "It was 'a complete and total bogus lie."
In fact, witnesses say that Ms. Ramirez was upset with Mr. Taylor because he showed interest in another woman.
Ms. Ramirez gave the two men directions as they drove into the projects where Mr. Taylor lived. They came upon Mr. Taylor, who was on a porch, chatting away with his friend, Deshawn Dante Holloway, 35, who was getting ready to go to a wedding.
According to Mr. Armstrong, Ms. Ramirez gave him and Mr. Gonzales very specific instructions about what she wanted them to do to Mr. Taylor: she wanted them to shoot him in the penis "so he don't use it no more."
Gonzales and Armstrong got out of their vehicle, and tangled with the boyfriend, Mr. Taylor, and his friend Mr. Holloway.
In the end, Mr. Armstrong fired five shots at Taylor and Holloway, four into their backs, killing both men.
Both deceased men were fathers. Mr. Taylor was a security guard who was just getting his life together. Mr. Holloway had recently enrolled in a technical school
Last week, Mr. Gonzales and Mr. Armstrong were on trial for second degree murder. Two separate Sacramento juries returned verdicts against them. Ms. Ramirez is scheduled for a May 9 trial.
Two men are dead; two men's lives are forever destroyed. All because of a rape lie. Just another mind-numbing tragedy all too common to readerrs of this blog. Earlier this week, in connection with a similar case, we wrote extensively about such tragedies. See here.
It is not at all unusual that this terrible story has received very little media coverage. In contrast, a woman was wrongly convicted of making a false rape claim and was fined $500, and the case became a cause célèbre. That's because that very rare, peculiar story fits the official metanarrative of the persons who dominate gender issues. It is far more typical for some hapless man to suffer tragedy -- up to and including death -- as a result of a false rape claim, but those stories are always ignored by the politicized sexual grievance industry.
SOURCES:
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/04/13/3548670/armstrong.html
http://m.sacbee.com/sacramento/db_9434/contentdetail.htm;jsessionid=62BCBD3D05355C11C26EC022EF5435C2?contentguid=Qh5EBwXI&detailindex=0&pn=1&ps=2
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The woman needs to get a prison sentence longer than the men. Society needs to protect all innocent men from her.
Two men duped, by another false-rape predator into murdering two innocent men. Culturally and legally, in ways direct and indirect, radical-feminism has contributed to creating an environment that fuels this type of social behavior.
Around where I live, a woman had her boyfriend kill a kid because he refused to give her a pretty necklace. She's doing time for second degree murder.
I really hope this one will get life, too, no matter how much she claims she just wanted to hurt the guy.
Agreed - it's far more typical for a false rape claim to end in tragedy for a male. Perhaps his good name is destroyed or his business or his relationship with his wife. Sometimes it even escalates to murder.
Off-topic, but can someone reply to this comment here?
"Women make false rape accusations “because they are late for work”?
There is no arguing with this kind of paranoid hatred, so I won’t even try. You all should be ashamed of yourselves."
Then someone else replied with:
"... most coherent responses to this post and its replies. If any of the rape apologist/misogynist commenters are from Stanford, we clearly have a long way to go on our own campus."
http://tusb.stanford.edu/2011/04/why-do-you-hate-justice-stanford.html
Of course that is bullshit, and I replied with cases of women lying about just that, to avoid paying cab fare, but my comment did not get approved by moderation (wonder why?).
If someone could post to debunk this crap they are posting, that would be great, maybe your comments might get through. Here are two articles I used:
http://www.thisistotalessex.co.uk/news/Undefined-Headline/article-2959648-detail/article.html
(the woman who lied about rape because she was late for work)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/story/2009/05/15/edmonton-cab-driver-lawsuit.html
(Group of 4 women who lied about rape to avoid paying taxi fare)
This is the same thing as hiring a hit-man.
People go to jail for hiring hit men...
Why not women who do basically the same thing.
OT - Your followers keep increasing.
I plan to make TV commercials for this blog, and the spearhead.
I will post them on YouTube and get your permission to "try" to air them on T.V.
Cel said...
Off-topic, but can someone reply to this comment here?
Actually I did just that ---days ago.
Haven't seen it posted, yet, and doubt I ever will.
here's similar one- as usual its the men who get killed or take the fall.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/florida_teens_allegedly_lured_friends_4yVo8BCRWuRga8VHo727VN
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Actually I did just that ---days ago.
Haven't seen it posted, yet, and doubt I ever will."
The specific comment I mentioned was only posted yesterday evening.
Maybe you mean you tried to comment on the same piece a few days ago?
OT: Pierce, I had an idea.
Has anyone ever suggested adding tags / categories to your post?
For instance, one category could be "false rape claims that lead to a man being beaten / killed"
or
"false rape claims against cab drivers"
or "false rape claims for revenge or spite"
"false rape claims to excuse some other action"
That would make it easier to search for posts like that.
What do you think?
Cel, I think that's a great idea. Let me see what I can do. And I've been following your great advocacy at the Stanford site, and I very much support all your efforts. Keep up the great work!
Most of this violence is coming from the matriarchal underclass.
cel, i would agree,excellent idea, it would make it easier for folks to study the different aspects of false rape accusations.
Thanks Pierce. It enrages me when you post the truth, then someone comes along and calls you a misogynist, paranoid, etc. etc. for saying it.
Then when you provide proof that your claims are true, your words get blocked so you sound like a sexist liar, even though you have only said the truth.
This is why there needs to be a registry for women who falsely accuse. If they caused damage with their lie, then that needs to be listed along with a picture. Every 5yrs, a new picture needs to be taken so men as well as society can be protected from any unnecessary mayhem.
@Cel: I too greatly appreciate your advocacy efforts Cel. I have been posting as an alias on the Stanford site, but want to maintain anonymity as the campus has a particularly hostile environment to rational people who do not fit within the hyperliberal paradigm. I connected with another Stanford student on reddit who described half the people at the school as incredibly liberal&outspoken and the other half as too apathetic to speak up. I think this is somewhat true, but I also think there are a lot of guys and girls who, like me, are scared of retribution and having words like "misogynist" thrown around.
@Archivist: FRS' pageranking on google (and/or the linkage on the stanford articles) is working to great effect. I heard some students discussing FRS yesterday in a dining hall. And I know of one friend who googled and found FRS.
Human-Stupidity really sorted out that poster who threw the word misogynist around (I was going to back you up, but people keep beating me to it).
On-Topic: This news really saddens me. I agree with Cel's recommendation. I often find myself doing site-specific google searches to try and put together link lists (recently I aggregated suicide articles related to false rape accusations). It's not too difficult to do (ex: google "suicide site:falsrapesociety.blogspot.com"), but it'd be really helpful to have tags or categories for doing lookups on specific topics. I think many people will read a story like the one mentioned and think that it is just a one-time thing, but if we drop the history of links on those pages it might just catch the attention of a journalist looking to make their mark with a breaking story. The truth is that a TV news special on the lives lost from false rape accusations would draw in a lot of people; I just don't think journalists are aware that the story exists.
Maybe we could do our own studies, (using academic standards of course), using the vast numbers of false rape accusations on this site.
For example; How did the media report each incidence, did the reporter use the term "victim" or "alleged victim", Did the reporter "spin the story" in a direction which did not hold the false accuser accountable. How was the story spun?? ect, ect.
What percentage of false rape accusations were made because the false accuser was "late for work"???, what percentage of false rape accusers made the accusation against an ex boyfriend so could "instigate violence by proxy"???
What percentage of false rape accusers were Charged, and which areas of the countrys law enforcement are more responsible than others when it comes to holding women accountable for their false rape accusations??
There is a wealth of data stored here for the right academic.
I was just reading this article when at the end the "pervert constructionist" who spun the story ended it with the misleading "boys will be boys", and refuse to acknowledge the "violence by proxy" of the little barbarian girl who orchestrated the whole thing.
The "spinner" of this story is definitely a "gender-raunch journalist", for gender-raunch journalists blame all violence on men.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/21/plot-grisly-murder-florida-teen-followed-fight-authorities-say/#comment
> I plan to make TV commercials for this blog, and the spearhead.
This blog? Could use it. The spearhead? I'd think twice. Problem is, you can say women shouldn't have the right to vote in spearhead comments, because they vote for the wrong kind of people! - and get fifty upvotes without a single downvote.
Spearhead articles are usually fairly reasonable, but as long as people read the comment sections at all, it's just going to give all MRAs a bad name. The spearhed commentariat is extreme right-wing first, MRAs a distant second.
Pierce and Cel,
I will get the tags started this weekend. I'll try to set up the main page to list by category as well, so that you can just go to the stories that fall under the category.
Stanford Student - ”FRS' pageranking on google (and/or the linkage on the stanford articles) is working to great effect. I heard some students discussing FRS yesterday in a dining hall. And I know of one friend who googled and found FRS.”
This is the sort of exposure is an outcome that is ideal when a “controversy” or the issue of FRA’s comes up. This site has maintained it’s rational and logical perspective on the over-all issue quite well, and is now ideally positioned to be a source for the “higher education” for those who become curious about the issue.
And, even if they must do so surreptitiously, it’s still a bit of a coup to be getting the attention of students for Stanford (and other highly regarded institutions) who’ve been subjected to years of indoctrination (yet, are smart enough to recognize it as BS).
It would seem a good pathway towards encouraging more academic pursuit regarding the issue.
E. Steven Berkimer - ”I will get the tags started this weekend. I'll try to set up the main page to list by category as well, so that you can just go to the stories that fall under the category.”
As if on cue…
This will be a big help in that regard.
It's a big job, Steve. Don't kill yourself.
Let me explain why this wasn't done at the outset. I wasn't sure what kinds of trends we'd be seeing. Now when you follow the stories on a daily basis for several years, you see clear trends.
MRA_Anon_2 - ”Spearhead articles are usually fairly reasonable, but as long as people read the comment sections at all, it's just going to give all MRAs a bad name. The spearhed commentariat is extreme right-wing first, MRAs a distant second.”
Gee, it almost sounds like your saying there might be some nut-job commenting over there, trying to make it all about himself, and spewing profanity-filled tirades at a those who dare to challenge his ill-thought out notions? A wannabe Maximilien de Robespierre, demanding that everyone must join him in his quest for tribunals to punish those public officials who’ve “crossed” him?
Naw, there couldn’t be such a person, could there?
[sorry Pierce, I couldn’t resist]
Yeah, there's one guy over there who called slw and me idiots or something, and to this day, I have no idea what he advocates. All it takes is a couple of nuts to give everyone a bad name. Mr. Price is a great guy. But these nutcases have always been a problem for the movement.It was true at Glenn Sacks' site.
Sad part is, this will be filed under multiple person murders(MPM) by the FBI stats, because more then one person was involved in the act of murder, instead of being filed as DV. Men are more likely to kill there spouse/GF themselves while women usually get other men to do it. By filing this as an MPM instead of DV, it artificially deceases the number of male deaths reported as DV, while not doing so for female reported deaths. This produces skewed ratios that are used to further the goals of the victim and prison industrial complexes. (primary aggressor laws, witch head trials, etc.)
Another off topic post: I am sure this has been suggested before, but you guys really should put a paypal donation box up. FRS deserves a domain, solid hosting, and a professionally-designed theme (expensive but worth it).
Actually, I had served with a woman that made a false rape claim when she was late for work. In the military, being late can be a very big deal. She only told the truth because she realized the guy she accused would go to prison for 5 years.
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